ffs Fletch, don't start a story and not finish it what ya got early onset oldtimerz disease or something??FLETCH wrote:If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it must be a....
Donovan wrote: - The Borg, Bird and Fed all build doomsday launchers in the same turns: five launchers in two turns
2. The Borg had ample time to set up shop in the middle of the Pit for quite a while now-- many planets beyond the reach of the other races.Donovan wrote: - The Borg (and probably cloaked Birdmen) show up on the frontlines, having conveniently moved past Empire minefields and Fed and Crystal webmines.
1. I was the first to start building an Antimatter Missile Launcher (beyond the ones you two have). I can only presume that once someone had begun building their first launcher, everyone else thought it might be safe to build theirs (the first target is the most vulnerable...).
FROM: Planet ID#405
Our spies have noticed race 1 building
an Antimatter DoomsDay Missile Launcher!
Estimated completion time: 6 months.
So you're mistaking or lying. You're probably gonna go with mistaking, and you're going to assure me this was just a coincidence.
FROM: Planet ID#222
Our spies have noticed race 6 building an
Antimatter DoomsDay Missile Launcher!
Estimated completion time: 6 months.
JonnyDoH wrote: 2. The Borg had ample time to set up shop in the middle of the Pit for quite a while now-- many planets beyond the reach of the other races.
3. I've had ample time to build fireclouds within the Pit.
5. Edit: To put your mind at ease, I can say honestly and openly say that there is a planet hopping path between my starbase worlds and my cubes that are not covered by Webs, Fed, Empire and Crystal minefields. Even so, Chunnel. Chunnel chunnel chunnel. Jebus.
I've had a temporary NAP / border agreement, with the border being between two homeclusters with the Empire, yes. Ofcourse, we only had a border to discuss to begin with, because I had kicked the Rebels out of their homecluster. Also, I never used this NAP to fly past or through Empire space to attack someone else. And finally, at this very moment I control ten out of the 16 planets in the Empire's homecluster, including his former homeworld. So I don't quite see the similarities between that temporary border agreement and the things I see happening in this game.JonnyDoH wrote: As for the rest of your points, I cannot say other than we have been over this before, in another thread. You yourself set up a Non Aggression Pact with the Empire (up to a number of turns), so I don't see what the problem is.
Actually, a number of planets exchanged hands.Donovan wrote: I just find it amazing that in 74 turns, in a one-ally game, six or seven races manage to all get into the Pit yet stay out of eachother's way completely. Except for computer-controlled races, who seem to be the only ones doing any combat. Their homeclusters get invaded. Some races even move to the other end of the cluster to combat far-away enemies, somehow without any combat with other races during their travels through the pit.
The webs were laid after where my fleet is now. I'll deal with it after I deal with the more pressing matter of an Antimatter missile being launched from Equuleus. Right now, the webs aren't in my way to my primary objective. It's the lesser of two evils at the moment.Donovan wrote: Your point five illustrates this perfectly. Instead of doing something about the webs and minefields that are closing in on you, you actually argue that there 'is a planet hopping path' left from your bases to where you are attacking. That is supposed to put my mind at ease how?
"Buddies" and Non Aggression Pacts are not necessarily synonymous, as you set fit to make an example of with the Empire.Donovan wrote: So at least have the decency to stop BS-ing and just admit you're buddies with way too many races please.
you just aint payin attention !!! I currently have NO ships inside crystal webs. I have lost a couple of MBRs to Fed mines.. and several of my ships (including a Gorbie heading to join the party) have had to turn back to take on supplies after hitting Fed mines !- The Empire seems to be moving in and out of Fed and Crystal webmines without problems
...again... WHAT?!?! seriously - you need to throw your head of intel out the airlock... what minefields !?! I had a couple of small ones, but those are now gone, once your welcome wagon made up my mind who the bigger threat was... rest assured - ALL my resources are focused now.. I have a NAP or 2, that is true ... but I *know* you and your pet have no issues with that !The Borg (and probably cloaked Birdmen) show up on the frontlines, having conveniently moved past Empire minefields
Suspect, but not water-tight. Lack of combat does not imply an alliance or even a NAP for that matter. In my game I'm fighting the Lizards, but its all been planet-taking. Lack of ship explosions, the observation of my shps in lizard territory, and a common enemy may make a casual observer think we had some form of alliance. The only thing that can be gleamed from above is that it would appear that the Feds are fighting the Robots.Donovan wrote: - The Federation has several ships inside the the Fascist homecluster, not bothered by Facist minefields
- The Federation is moving more ships to the Fascist homecluster, but so far no combat between them
- There are at least 300 lightyears of open space to travel between the Federation and Fascist homecluster
- The Federation is about to sweep some Robotic minefields that are covering the Fascist homecluster
This would indicate there is is an alliance between the Feds and Xtals, or at the very least, there was one at some point. Your last quote above is a presumption, and therefore can't be used. Considering the state of the Rebels and Crystals in this game, it would come as no surprise to me if the Feds decided to cancel their alliance and strike up a new alliance with a stronger player.Donovan wrote: - The Federation is providing the Crystals with resources for webmines
- The Crystals are protecting Federation bases with webmines
- The Crystals are also laying Federation ID webmines
- The Crystals are probably still formally allied to the Rebels
Another presumption - can't be usedDonovan wrote: - The Borg and Birdmen are presumably allied
Only goes to prove that all three had the means to build the launchers at the same time, nothing more. Heck you or your ally might also have started building a launcher in the same turn for all we know.Donovan wrote: - The Borg, Bird and Fed all build doomsday launchers in the same turns: five launchers in two turns
Can be achieved by knowing the friendly code of the minefield. Would this constitute an alliance or merely a NAP?Donovan wrote: - The Empire seems to be moving in and out of Fed and Crystal webmines without problems
Only proves that the game may be a little dull. Remember that its only destroyed ships and your own combats that get reported. Taking of planets and stealing of ships won't show up unless they're your own...Donovan wrote: - There is hardly any combat in the cluster, except against Computer-controlled Privateers and Lizards
Okay firstup there's been no evidence given that the Borg and Birds have any sort of alliance, so therefore we can only make presumptions, which of course are in no way incriminating. Therefore there could be some form of borg-empire alliance, but hey, that's cool because borg are allowed to have one ally, right? Also keeping in mind that the borg have chunnel, its not hard to get around all those minefields. Finally, does giving out of a minefield friendly code constitute an alliance or a NAP?Donovan wrote: - The Borg (and probably cloaked Birdmen) show up on the frontlines, having conveniently moved past Empire minefields and Fed and Crystal webmines.
Again, I never said I was the advanced player you are (and often, I counterclaim that as much as possible). I can only promise that I will try my best in game to "bring it". If it turns out to be a lose lose scenario to me, at least we got to see some fireworks between the big ships. It's about time isn't it?Rimstalker wrote:Jonny, you think you are really going to get anywhere with just 8 bios? I'm really hoping that you are going to chunnel in more here.
At least I take the time to make sure I spell your name right. Jeez, no respect...Donovan wrote:And there we have it.JonnyDoH wrote:Eventually, the proliferation of Antimatter Missile Launchers caused people to pause, and a deal was reached-- I chunneled out and began concentrating my forces.
JohnnyDoH will from this day forth be known as Huey.
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest