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Glory device alliance support

Post#1 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:17 pm

Greetings,

I started work on an addon for glory device alliance support, should be ready soon. There are some things though I never really got sorted out considering glory device and PBPs, so here's some questions (which most likely have been asked countless times..):

1. Fascist gets 1 PBP for pop/trg his own ship, no matter if D19b or Saber?
2. Fascist gets PBPs for destroying enemy ship with pop/trg? When yes, same amount as by regular combat?
3. Enemy owner of a blown up ship gets anything?

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Post#2 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:12 pm

Once you're ready if you want I'll setup a test game.
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Re: Glory device alliance support

Post#3 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:26 pm

albatross wrote:1. Fascist gets 1 PBP for pop/trg his own ship, no matter if D19b or Saber?
2. Fascist gets PBPs for destroying enemy ship with pop/trg? When yes, same amount as by regular combat?
As far as I can tell, yes to both. 1 PBP for the Glory ship, and Trunc((Mass+100)/100) for exploded enemies. (PHost is different, of course.)
3. Enemy owner of a blown up ship gets anything?
A message :-)


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Re: Glory device alliance support

Post#4 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:31 pm

streu wrote:
3. Enemy owner of a blown up ship gets anything?
A message :-)
And then another message, as I taunt you!
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Post#5 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:32 pm

"No, now go away or I shall taunt you a second time"
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Post#6 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:18 pm

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Post#7 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:26 am

Albatros, what exactly youwant to implenment?

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Post#8 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:35 am

Silvestr Potash wrote:Albatros, what exactly youwant to implenment?
An idea which has been proposed and discussed by various people: Ships belonging to Fascist allies should suffer the same reduced damage from a glory device hit as the latter.

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Post#9 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:53 am

The another reason to play in PHost :) Its implemented already here.
How about kill 40% avian on the allied planet by the glory device?
Would the ally triger the "trg" with mission=kill?

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Post#10 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:05 am

Choosable by option. That's the current config file:

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# Glory Device Alliance Support v 1.0 config file
# ===============================================

# Glory device hull numbers
# -------------------------
D19bTypeHull        = 39
SabreTypeHull       = 41

# Active alliance benefits
# -------------------------
AllyD19bBonus       = 1
AllySabreBonus      = 1
AllyCloakersTRGSave = 1

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Post#11 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:01 am

There are a few things I'd agree could be changed to help the Klingons. Judging by how late they get picked (or don't get picked) they certainly need something to make them more attractive to players.

I'm sorry but I don't think this is it. Klingon problems are a lot more basic - light hull for the Vicky, not enough tubes and some small fuel tanks. I don't think tinkering with one of the best features of the race will make any difference to anyone.
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Post#12 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:01 am

Hehe.. that's right, making allied ships trg safe doesn't really change the Fascists into being more attractive to play. Purpose here is not to solve those basic problems, but to enable Fascist allies to actually do allied combat even when glory devices are involved.

I remember such a thing being discussed long time ago and even now after more than ten years it still is just but idea. Hey, if the result doesn't work out at least I can stop thinking about it.

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Post#13 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:07 am

I'm not knocking you for thinking about it - believe me. This is my favourite race we're talking about here!

The trg problem with your ally can be solved by giving him the poppers. Klingons always get reduced pop damage (including the dominion popper in AQ scenario) and the owner gets reduced damage.

Problem solved - let's go have some bloodwine!
QI'DaS tuQ SoSlI'

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Post#14 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:37 am

but: How about friendly code which cause glory device explode only if an visible enemy ship is in place? With it , you can "Guard" the Viki against an enemy big battleship. And, may be, no one will fight with 10 torpedo tubes against fascist :)


How about a "splash" explosion -explosion in a 1LY (1.43LY) radius?

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Post#15 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:38 pm

Glory Device Alliance Support (GDAS) v1.0 is ready for testing (and judgement).

With this addon ships belonging to Klingon allies no longer suffer a full mine hit, but only the reduced 20% from the D19b and 10% from the Saber.

GDAS.TXT
GDAS_1_0.ZIP

GDAS is beta and bugs are yet to find - I'm happy for any type of reply.

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