really?Commodore Cherek, IRJTN wrote:When it comes to queue stuffing, it’s all a matter of one opinion verses another. I have the same mind set as BANE on it. The Feds are the only except building of building hulls with low engines, beams and torpedoes (I did not include hulls on purpose) since they can upgrade everything except for the hull.
you need to be faster - can only recycle one ship per turnCommodore Cherek, IRJTN wrote: I wouldn’t mind attacking a starbase that had several low tech ships at it. But that is one of the bad things about playing mostly non-cloaking races, they can see me coming and recycle the ships before I get there.
Lets put the quote in the context as it was posted BaneVertigo wrote:Sorry for the intrusion into this game, as I am not playing in it
Q STUFFING IS PART OF THE GAME
If you don't know how to do it, or combat it, yha don't know how to play the game
Yup, especially when everyone is saying the same thingCommodore Cherek, IRJTN wrote:This is another one of those dead-end discussions, it's not against the rules, some people do it and some don't. Discussing it for 15 or 20 pages won't change anyone mind.
Very good point. And whenever I have the chance I build such a ship instead of a "junk" ship. The Klingons are a good example... what do you do when you don't have the hull tech or the moly to build a d19b (not to mention that you don't have tech 10 drives on that base). Do you really build nothing?B A N E wrote:Even with low grade engines, the following multifunction ships aren't crap.
They serve practical/useful functions.
Bohemian (for fed, warming)
Eros (for fed cooling, for liz cooling and hiss).
Swift for romulan, dirt cheap, long legged multifunction spy.
D19 and Saber aren't crap...it's a necessity for Klingons to equalize.
BR4 for Pirate is the cheap sacrificial lamb.
B200 is a borg staple.
Opal for Crystal.
PL21 is an EE staple.
QTanker or Iron Slave is a staple for Borg/Bots.
Falcon is a rebel staple.
CofM Patriot is about their only dirt cheap good buy.
Yes and no.Mika wrote:Do you really build nothing?
sighB A N E wrote:Yes and no.Mika wrote:Do you really build nothing?
Often, my economy is running on multiple turn construction plans.
With enough freight capacity, the starbases are supplied so that I
don't have to make a choice between junk and nothing.
That's why I keep saying if you've got bases that are building junk,
you've got too many bases. Build more freighters (LDSFs) to supply
them. Then as you have more supply than bases, build bases.
A fair rule of thumb is one LDSF full of minerals inbound per turn
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