VCR's - Left side Vs Right side

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VCR's - Left side Vs Right side

Post#1 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:11 am

After doing all the reading I can find I still have a question.

I understand that when two Gorbies, as an example, fight each other which side they are on makes a huge difference.

But what happens if a Nova was fighting a Gorbie? Should it make a difference and would it?

As far as I can figure out it should not and if it does it is complicated by the random number of torps that miss anyway.

Thoughts?
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Post#2 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:18 am

If a torp ship exceeds 331 (iirc) kts, versus a carrier, it doesn't make a
difference. 60% of the time, a right side ship versus a left side carrier
gets +360kt mass. If the ship exceeds 331 kt, the +360kt has no effect
on the damage the ship takes from fighter blasts.
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Post#3 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:21 am

Thanks Bane,

And if the Gorbie got the extra 360kts worth of mass instead of the Nova the damage done by the torps should not change either?
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Post#4 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:48 am

Gavan wrote:Thanks Bane,

And if the Gorbie got the extra 360kts worth of mass instead of the Nova the damage done by the torps should not change either?
Left side never gets a mass bonus.
Right side warship only gets a boost if left side warship is a carrier.
So, a Gorbie on the Right wouldn't get a boost if a Nova is on Left.
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Post#5 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:45 am

isn't it 321 kts?

Fairly sure about it.
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Post#6 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:04 pm

Rimstalker wrote:isn't it 321 kts?

Fairly sure about it.
I have to look it up to be certain.
You are correct, it is 321.
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Post#7 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:58 pm

B A N E wrote:
Rimstalker wrote:isn't it 321 kts?

Fairly sure about it.
I have to look it up to be certain.
You are correct, it is 321.
Can someone remind me again about how left side right side is determined?
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Post#8 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:26 pm

Someone should write this stuff on a website or something :wink:

How to get left or right:
http://www.donovansvgap.com/help/combat ... attleorder

The effects of left & right:
http://www.donovansvgap.com/help/combat.htm#leftright

And for the masterclass on all things concerning combat in VGA Planets:
Jan 'Sirius' Klingele's excellent "Master at arms"
http://www.donovansvgap.com/info/master.htm

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Post#9 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:51 pm

Thanks Donovan,

That is where I started.

Bane,

So if the ships were to reverse sides and the Gorbie got the mass bonus would it make any difference to the level of damage the Nova's torps did?
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Post#10 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:07 pm

Try to read Bane's post again. The one from 11:48.

Afterwards you might want to edit that post.
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Post#11 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:49 pm

Is there a right/left difference in Phost?

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Post#12 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:17 pm

Donovan wrote:Someone should write this stuff on a website or something :wink:

How to get left or right:
http://www.donovansvgap.com/help/combat ... attleorder

The effects of left & right:
http://www.donovansvgap.com/help/combat.htm#leftright

And for the masterclass on all things concerning combat in VGA Planets:
Jan 'Sirius' Klingele's excellent "Master at arms"
http://www.donovansvgap.com/info/master.htm
Imagine that.
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Post#13 » Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:23 am

Tei wrote:Is there a right/left difference in Phost?
This is from the ultimate PHost documentation site 8) (http://www.phost.de/phost4doc/oob.html)
Perform the battle between aggressor and opponent. Note that PHost will assign sides on the VCR randomly, so you can't tell from the battle alone who was the aggressor. This is unlike HOST where the aggressor will always be on the right side.

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Post#14 » Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:31 pm

I didn't read anything about adding mass or fighter "skill" in the Phost doc. The placement of the agressor is random but does it still matter?

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