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Game summary

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:51 am
by FireAge
As I was on holidays, my game summary is a bit later than normal, but here it is. Looking forward to read what other people felt about the game and the Margetios scenario.

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Turn 1. I started out the game on planet 199. I’m not very enthusiastic about my location, as only a few planets are directly obtainable and there is only one direction for growth with freighters without showing my position. Fortunately I’ve got my LCC, and teleport add on is enabled, so that could be avoidable. Strategy is threefold:
1: Fast colonization, fast expansion
2: Destroy one enemy nearby in ~20 turns to create extra space
3: Focus on collecting MC and build reptile to upgrade for 10k MC each. Each reptile can HISS for about 500MC per turn, so after 20 turns, I will have built a clipper for the price of a reptile.

Fleet: 1 SDSF, 1 Serpent

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Turn 10. I see an outrider from the privateer crossing over from P384 to P017. This is his starting vessel, so it immediately determines the possible candidates for the privateer homeworld. I decide to destroy the privateer as early as possible. He can be a very potent ally, but his home region in in the middle of the area where I want to expand. Strategy will be to send 3-4 LCC with MK7 and disruptors. They’re cheap to build and hard for the privateer to defend against.

Fleet: 1 SDSF, 3 LDSF, 1 Reptile, 4 LCC, 1 Serpent

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Turn 20. Several more players have been discovered. The Robot is to my left, the Klingon seems to be to my top and the Borg and Fed seem to have allied and are to my right and bottom. Judging by the size of their fleet, I estimate that they have been allied from turn 1, or found each other very quickly. I have also seen the Fed flying around with MCBR, so worst case it’s a 3-way alliance. So I’ve decided to push forward with killing the privateer and then focus on the Borg. The fact that he has Fed money and a Biocide is troublesome, no way I can do anything about that at the moment. So I need to stall and build Madonzilla. Unfortunately, I have 50.000 MC lying around for upgrading the reptile, but the Bazars are not anywhere close to me. I have discovered the privateer homeworld, and have 3 LCC ready to destroy is. He has not built a merlin, so I should be fine.

Fleet: 3 Loki, 4 Eros, 1 SDSF, 4 LDSF, 6 Reptile, 7 LCC, 4 T-Rex, 1 Serpent

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Turn 30. I destroyed the privateer homeworld in turn 21, but as it turns out, he was not allied to the Fed and Borg. So by destroying him, I have destroyed my only chance to fight back. I have laid contact with the Robot to ally against the Fed/Borg, but I fear it is too late. Robot was allied to the privateer, so with the 3 of us, we may have stood a chance against such an early alliance. I am losing ground to the Fed/Borg combo, who seems to have a really large number of Cubes combined with a lot of Missouri and a few Nova. The Fed is indeed flying several MCBR, which is a nightmare. My Loki will be useless, my ships will be towed and destroyed, I need to build more minefields to prevent the MCBR, but I am very low on minerals after building large amount of T-Rex, Madonzilla plus fighters and torps. The Robot is approaching fast with minelayers and instrumentalities, but I fear it will be too late. I have way too much MC, but still no Bazar in range. Stuck with 19 reptiles which churn out money like crazy, but no way to upgrade them. I’ve started to evacuate them to Robot to HISS his worlds for more minefields.

Fleet: 5 Loki, 6 Eros, 1 SDSF, 5 LDSF, 19 Reptile, 7 LCC, 8 T-Rex, 1 Serpent, 3 Madonzilla

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Turn 40. I have just lost my homeworld to the Fed/Borg combo. After some skirmishes he arrives with a fleet of 15 Missouri, 7 Thor, 2 Biocide, 1 Annihilation and 1 Nove. I decided to withdraw instead of fight. There is no way I can win that, and the build point I gather from destroying ships, I cannot spend as all my bases are completely drained. Only choice left is to retreat to Robot space and try to form a new defense there. Several ships got MCBR-towed to destruction, including the Intrumentality send by the Robot. Maybe I can finally find a Bazar in Robot space, but of course my Reptile have low engine quality, so that will take some time. The Robot meanwhile is having to fight the Rebel (Q), Bird (Q) and Fed/Borg combo, so he is not looking too hot either.

Fleet: 6 Loki, 6 Eros, 1 Fuel Carrier, 1 SDSF, 4 LDSF, 19 Reptile, 6 LCC, 1 T-Rex, 1 Serpent, 1 MCBR, 4 Madonzilla, 1 Instrumentality

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Turn 50. The retreat has been a disaster. I am getting out mined, so MCBR are waiting a retreating planets, towing away ships to be destroyed. I am one turn behind on where I should be, lost several ships and bases not fully upgraded because of that. Meanwhile Robot is still fighting Rebel (Q), Bird (Q) and Fed/Borg combo and is losing heavily. This game is over, so we wait until the Borg/Fed are tired of cleaning up the leftovers and suggest to end the game.

Fleet: 5 Loki, 6 Eros, 1 Fuel Carrier, 1 SDSF, 1 MDSF, 2 LDSF, 10 Reptile, 5 LCC, 2 T-Rex, 3 Madonzilla, 1 Merlin

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Turn 60. Fed/Borg have suggested to end the game on the forum and everyone has agreed. Well played.

Fleet: 4 Loki, 4 Eros, 1 LDSF, 5 Reptile, 3 LCC

Conclusion: All in all the Margetios Bazaar was an interesting scenario. Unfortunately, I have never been close to a single Bazaar, completely ruining my strategy number 3. I destroyed the privateer in turn 21 completing strategy number 2, but thereby sealing the fate of the game. Had I allied with him, or at least made an NAP and focused on the Borg/Fed, I probably still would have lost, but they would have had a much tougher time to win. Next time I won’t put all my eggs in the Bazaar basket :-)


EDIT:
New picture of final turn, after receiving the RST of Borg and Fed.
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Re: Game summary

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:32 pm
by BitMask
good review.

Re: Game summary

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:18 pm
by Havok
Beautiful FireAge!

I don't know why everyone doesn't play in VPA.

Re: Game summary

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:18 pm
by Captain Blood
Yes, thanks for sharing the game and your thoughts, especially for a game who turned out to be a hard challenge. It makes it more interesting to read :)

The only thing i miss in eccoview is those nice maps it appear to be able to generate, else i prefer eccoview and winplan to VPA any time. I tried VPA once and after doing like 3 turns in it i newer looked at it again.

Re: Game summary

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:34 am
by FireAge
Thanks guys 8)
Now hoping the other side of the game will also post something.

For client I went from Planets to VPUtil to VPA and never really changed again.
I used the new PCC2, and that works pretty well, but I cannot get used to not having my starmap in all screens.

Here's to Quapla :cheers: and his improvements to include teleport among others. Together with UFO4VPA it really is a marvellous program.

Re: Game summary

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:04 pm
by FireAge
Received RST file from Fed and Borg. Updated the first post with a new final image.

Re: Game summary

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:29 pm
by Ricky
Fed/Borg combo:

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Fleet:
ID SHIP NAME
13 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
21 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
23 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
25 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
38 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
126 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
157 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
161 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
208 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
216 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
218 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
240 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
285 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
312 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
319 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
332 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
349 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
353 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
357 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
370 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
399 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
404 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
410 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
420 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
435 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
439 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
453 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
472 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
477 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
493 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
5 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
60 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
65 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
79 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
87 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
106 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
130 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
167 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
172 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
219 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
226 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
228 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
249 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
274 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
278 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
294 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
301 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
317 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
318 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
335 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
336 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
352 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
365 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
372 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
383 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
447 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
449 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
496 ANNIHILATION CLASS B
149 B200 CLASS PROBE
154 B200 CLASS PROBE
160 B200 CLASS PROBE
233 B200 CLASS PROBE
254 B200 CLASS PROBE
425 B200 CLASS PROBE
145 B200 CLASS PROBE
310 B200 CLASS PROBE
414 B200 CLASS PROBE
17 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
43 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
78 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
129 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
187 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
198 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
243 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
269 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
280 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
296 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
344 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
463 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
473 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
474 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
108 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
231 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
305 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
380 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
381 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
398 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
409 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
497 BIOCIDE CLASS CARRIE
302 BOHEMIAN CLASS SURVE
379 BOHEMIAN CLASS SURVE
283 C283
62 D7 COLDPAIN CLASS CR
29 EROS CLASS RESEARCH
174 EROS CLASS RESEARCH
487 EROS CLASS RESEARCH
495 EROS CLASS RESEARCH
460 falcon-460
6 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
11 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
31 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
32 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
33 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
39 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
50 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
56 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
59 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
70 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
74 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
82 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
115 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
117 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
121 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
135 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
142 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
156 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
169 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
179 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
182 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
202 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
207 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
215 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
217 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
225 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
229 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
234 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
235 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
252 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
259 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
263 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
264 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
265 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
281 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
282 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
291 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
293 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
307 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
324 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
325 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
329 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
350 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
376 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
387 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
388 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
390 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
396 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
406 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
408 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
428 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
429 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
434 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
440 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
446 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
448 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
451 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
454 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
457 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
458 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
459 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
484 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
486 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
492 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
73 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
141 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
184 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
227 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
238 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
277 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
292 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
355 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
471 FIRECLOUD CLASS CRUI
290 Jumper
1 KITTYHAWK CLASS CARR
40 KITTYHAWK CLASS CARR
48 KITTYHAWK CLASS CARR
134 KITTYHAWK CLASS CARR
143 KITTYHAWK CLASS CARR
189 KITTYHAWK CLASS CARR
271 KITTYHAWK CLASS CARR
300 KITTYHAWK CLASS CARR
403 KITTYHAWK CLASS CARR
170 L170
339 L339
47 L47
98 L98
35 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
46 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
57 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
83 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
84 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
86 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
91 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
95 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
97 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
102 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
133 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
152 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
175 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
193 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
244 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
267 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
273 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
311 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
340 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
362 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
369 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
407 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
421 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
424 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
444 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
326 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
330 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
400 LARGE DEEP SPACE FRE
20 LOKI CLASS DESTROYER
41 LOKI CLASS DESTROYER
371 LOKI CLASS DESTROYER
104 LOKI CLASS DESTROYER
116 LOKI CLASS DESTROYER
220 LOKI CLASS DESTROYER
470 LOKI CLASS DESTROYER
479 LOKI CLASS DESTROYER
255 M255
416 M416
415 MDSF 415
18 MEDIUM DEEP SPACE FR
45 MEDIUM DEEP SPACE FR
107 MEDIUM DEEP SPACE FR
120 MEDIUM DEEP SPACE FR
212 MEDIUM DEEP SPACE FR
247 MEDIUM DEEP SPACE FR
323 MEDIUM DEEP SPACE FR
461 MEDIUM DEEP SPACE FR
34 MEDIUM DEEP SPACE FR
150 MEDIUM DEEP SPACE FR
262 MEDIUM DEEP SPACE FR
452 MEDIUM DEEP SPACE FR
12 MERLIN CLASS ALCHEMY
295 MERLIN CLASS ALCHEMY
373 MERLIN CLASS ALCHEMY
266 MERLIN CLASS ALCHEMY
118 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
119 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
138 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
186 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
195 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
221 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
222 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
248 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
284 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
297 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
374 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
389 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
419 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
422 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
455 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
465 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
466 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
8 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
75 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
101 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
109 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
165 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
166 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
178 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
199 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
346 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
397 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
427 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
481 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
500 METEOR CLASS BLOCKAD
58 MISSOURI CLASS BATTL
190 MISSOURI CLASS BATTL
230 MISSOURI CLASS BATTL
242 MISSOURI CLASS BATTL
276 MISSOURI CLASS BATTL
289 MISSOURI CLASS BATTL
309 MISSOURI CLASS BATTL
331 MISSOURI CLASS BATTL
437 MISSOURI CLASS BATTL
99 NEBULA CLASS CRUISER
469 NEBULA CLASS CRUISER
272 NOCTURNE CLASS DESTR
22 NOVA CLASS SUPER-DRE
66 NOVA CLASS SUPER-DRE
71 NOVA CLASS SUPER-DRE
77 NOVA CLASS SUPER-DRE
89 NOVA CLASS SUPER-DRE
105 NOVA CLASS SUPER-DRE
125 NOVA CLASS SUPER-DRE
144 NOVA CLASS SUPER-DRE
164 NOVA CLASS SUPER-DRE
213 NOVA CLASS SUPER-DRE
223 NOVA CLASS SUPER-DRE
303 NOVA CLASS SUPER-DRE
306 NOVA CLASS SUPER-DRE
342 NOVA CLASS SUPER-DRE
359 NOVA CLASS SUPER-DRE
375 NOVA CLASS SUPER-DRE
382 NOVA CLASS SUPER-DRE
432 NOVA CLASS SUPER-DRE
462 NOVA CLASS SUPER-DRE
328 OUTRIDER CLASS SCOUT
338 OUTRIDER CLASS SCOUT
322 PL21 PROBE
114 PL21 PROBE
268 PL21 PROBE
488 PL21 PROBE
14 Q TANKER
261 Q TANKER
343 Q TANKER
361 Q TANKER
395 Q TANKER
391 REPTILE CLASS DESTRO
127 Runner127
19 SMALL DEEP SPACE FRE
200 SMALL DEEP SPACE FRE
358 SMALL DEEP SPACE FRE
24 SUPER TRANSPORT FREI
100 SUPER TRANSPORT FREI
147 SUPER TRANSPORT FREI
153 SUPER TRANSPORT FREI
304 SUPER TRANSPORT FREI
467 SUPER TRANSPORT FREI
478 SUPER TRANSPORT FREI
499 SUPER TRANSPORT FREI
49 SUPER TRANSPORT FREI
4 THOR CLASS FRIGATE
27 THOR CLASS FRIGATE
85 THOR CLASS FRIGATE
464 THOR CLASS FRIGATE